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I have no idea about the story, but since the 70s Communist Hungary was pretty welcoming to western tourists, including American ones. By the 80s they had even grown a bit of a tourist industry geared towards western tourists.
My buddy managed to snag a girl from Turkey while still living with his parents, being a serial college attendee with no plans of how to graduate, no steady job, and driving a beat up old Hyundai Sonata.
If you're good looking you can accomplish some interesting things.
Life, man. I'm from Brooklyn where fucking everybody is a foreigner. I was 23 when I moved to China to marry. 15 years later I'm still here. Not a Pitt Stan or anything but this happens.
Why? If it's true, well, it participates in the general misery the situation, being a stranger alone in unknown place, full of sorrow and with nowhere to go. It's not unnecessary.
I don't know about blackpill but I feel like this is the ultimate proof about status based monogamy.
She fell for a movie director (who just had finished his first big movie Halloween 4 the year before) when she was with a guy who was and is soon to be known one of the hottest people on earth.
But Pitt didn't have the status he has now. So this is almost comical example of I don't know what pill. But it makes you think that money and resources matter more than looks and I don't know if that is supposed to be a good thing or not.
Lol I'm not saying I'm handsome, I'm like a solid 5 probably, broke as hell from some bad luck and my fiancee is not only gorgeous, like gorgeous, she isn't fixated on money because we have a connection like we're the same person in different bodies.
Maybe a rare case but the right person doesn't judge you for how much money you have.
I don't think it's true at all that women won't date a broke man, because there's too many broke, ain't shit, abusive dudes that always seem to either have a new woman to traumatize or a single woman they can sponge off for years. I think the only real rule here is that life just fucking sucks and it's not always anyone's fault--a fact that I accepted long before I got a girlfriend.
except women date broke dudes all the time, especially young ones. it is not uncommon for broke dudes to basically live at the expense of their gf. and they arent even always hot 😭 the issue is that they often are broke because they are also lazy and women learn how much additional baggage it is to be a provider and mommy (usually these same men arent very housechore active either) to a partner that just uses u as free home to play games in. women realise that no matter how much they love the character, the guy is a loser and at some point they put themself first. and usually that women will NOT date anybody poor again because she had learnt her lesson. this is quite common occurance. men do pay more attention to looks than money, this is true. but women tend to take character or whatever makes them fall in love (looks included) over money too, they just get burned more often and stop.
i say this as someone that seen it happen many times, heard stories about it happening and had myself dated a practically homeless boy (he basically moved in with me and my parents, before that he moved in with friends etc). i wont speak for others but for me, my love for him was all, i did not care how broke he is. and i learnt that he would literaly cheat on me while living in my freaking room. and while i would study like crazy, he would be just playing games. and i was young and naive so i didnt question how this will work in future but now that i am nearing my 30s and have kids (i am married, yes the husband is not broke, yes, it is not the same guy anymore) i would absolutely consider it more carefully and not entertain such relationship. and others have repeatedly shared similar opinions.
I did and grew to regret it. He got an inferiority complex about it and the fact that I was better educated and made more than him; I discovered he had cheated on me repeatedly, so I kicked him out and we had a very ugly divorce over custody of our sole child.
I know he’s extremely good looking but also isn’t it pretty well documented he’s not a good person. What’s the saying no matter how hot you are there’s someone that was tired of your shit
I thought a blackpill was one of those gas station pills that are colored black and probably dangerous to take.
I hate that everything is a loaded codeword for people "in the know," to basically talk shit about others. For example "incel" used to mean "involuntary celibate." It was, for a short time, stressing the involuntary part and particularly meant that someone was un ugly virgin. Now it's a lifestyle choice meaning "misogynist." You can say that Russel Brand is an incel and it might be true in the latter meaning but is devoid of it's original meaning.
I wouldn't doubt that Russel Brand has taken this blackpill.
Could it not be that she didn’t love him but fell in love with someone else? Bizarre take to only consider looks and money when women generally report that they care more about personality. You may not personally buy that but there’s certainly more to this equation than ‘girl left hot guy for rich guy’.
Or she just liked someone else more than him. Both men are humans with personalities that women can prefer and choose between. It's not necessarily anything at all to do with status.
Aye, 'tis a pill of evolutionary psychology to be sure. Women are hardwired to mate up and across in terms of social status. It's a phenomenon seen in chimpanzees and other primates as well.
If you’re paycheque to paycheque and drop all your money on a flight to Budapest to see a girl, you’re still broke. Travel is expensive but it’s not impossible
It's one of the three approaches to dating, stemming from Matrix movie.
,,Blue Pill" is a belief, that every woman will find a man attractive if he's just nice, be himself and listens to what women say. It's what ,,nice guys" buy into.
,,Red Pill" is a belief that every woman is inherently opportunistic and hypergamous and will naturally flock to the ,,Alpha male" who can provide her a lot, is tall, rich, and jacked, even if he treats her like crap. It's the core of the manosphere.
,,Black Pill" is a belief that some dudes are just destined to be lonely forever, because they have bad genetics, destined to always be poor, and no woman would ever want them, no matter what they do. It's the core of incel community.
The name associated with the story is Jill Schoelen. Supposedly real. He was engaged, she was working on a movie, she called him saying she was lonely, he used $600 of his last $800 to fly to see her only for her to tell him that she had fallen in love with the director. He then immediately left.
I wonder what his conversation with the homeless man was like, and how it went.
You never know who you’re talking too; it’s a very mystical thing when it happens to you; I am not saying that’s what happened here, necessarily; but I am intrigued given the other details.
Life has a funny way of being there for you in unexpected ways, mystical ways, when your heart is broken.
I had a random old man say, after I told him I had young kids “anyone I know who got a divorce got it between when the kids were born and when their youngest kid was four. I don’t know if you need to hear that but it’s food for thought”
I needed to hear it.
Those years are tough on everyone. You get through it and realize most of your problems primarily had to do with being exhausted.
I often think this, when almost immediately after your life is turned upside down, the song or film or TV show or passing conversation you overhear completely fits the moment and is almost exactly what you need to hear
Don't you see? You can connect to it when you're heartbroken and realize that you are just like a 25 year old Brad Pitt. And I'm sure your life will have the same trajectory.
And what happened to that homeless man? Did they strike up a life long friendship that still holds strong today or did that homeless man split when he too made it big?
It might been worse. Imagine if your girl turns out to be in a thousands years old cult of death. Pretended to be native christian girl, but turns out she is Baal worshiper.
Idk I dated a witchy girl from the mountains once. I dug the hippy chick vibe and we liked the same music and art stuff, both wanted to travel.
We were in the process of negotiating a van to travel in.
She dumped me and bought the van out from under me with our mutual friend, who’d she’d apparently been fucking.
They got arrested for squatting in a national park in Colorado. Fled to New Mexico, he snapped, threw a rock at her and totaled the van. Went to rehab/mental inpatient care, she split back to her home town, then moved to mine, and hit me up…
I was with someone else, and kindly told her to fuck off. She started tending bar at a restaurant near where I was working, started dating a dude who was both from my former unit, and shared a name with me.
I feel like with a good screenwriter that could be a movie.
The twist? (And why i even remembered this anecdote) she did some weird water and air spell RIGHT before shit all went south. Like weird pagan in the woods under a full moon shit.
And like literally immediately after, our relationship fell apart, she went a little crazy, and went to get into crazy hijinks with a crazy dude doing crazy shit 1000 miles away. Only to end up back in my home town, and me move on and have a kid with someone else.
What do you mean? This further supports the blackpill. At that time he was just a regular guy with no money. He wasn't a household name who had money, fame and Hollywood PR marketing him as the sexiest man alive. The only thing he had at the time was his looks which allowed him to hook up with his "fiancée" but do you really think she would've married a bum with no money? C'mon now. After he became famous, he was drowning in pussy.
This guy is a piece of garbage, look at what's come out about how he treats his kids, that kind of stuff doesn't happen overnight. She put up with him because of his looks and bailed as soon as someone better came along.
My guy, happy married living life, broken and with debt, wife chose me, people is not just one thing or another, is a scale of colors, maybe you find someone that is good for you or you may don't.
Don't judge everyone single person because of the few, give your life the chance of fail and learn how to clean your knees and stand up again 🤘🏽
The concept of black pill is that your biology determines everything. The idea that if Brad Pitt can be dumped, then the theory is invalid.
Biology plays a general role, tall guys are nearly universally preferred by women in the west, but "Status" is far more important. If you are famous for whatever reason there are women that will choose you. This includes people famous for killing their parents like the Menendez brothers.
What does the guy who is famous to be maybe the most handsome man that ever lived having a heartbreak have to do with black pill and how is it supposed to make me feel better?
I'm not being sarcastic nor mocking, I'm genuinely asking.
How does this disprove blackpill? Even if you’re hot af you also need to be influential and rich. That is blackpilled. But tbh Brad might just be kind a douchebag judging by what happened with him and Angelina Jolie he might just be a meathead incapable of holding down a serious long term relationship.
It's always like "women like rich men", "no, women like chads", "no, women like...", as if women are a hive mind.
But even if all women universally loved rich tall handsome men, it's not like men are fighting over ugly broke unemployed women. Attractive wealthy people attract more lovers, what a revelation.
I fell in love , was cheated on for over a year or more then had her demand half the equity in the house I purchased fully with my money. She got 80K and married the guy 4 months later. My kids and I almost lost our home. I still haven’t mentally recovered I feel broken. I still love her I hate it. It’s been a couple years since.
You loved the person you thought she was. A person who cared about you. The real person does not, at all. Otherwise, she would never have cheated on you.
It's ok to mourn for the person you thought you loved, the one who loved you back and is now gone. But never confuse that person with the women who cheated on you.
How does any of this invalidate black pill ideology? Am I misunderstanding the ideology? This happened when he wasn’t rich or famous. Once he was, his challenges with the opposite sex were different: it wasn’t getting women, it was keeping a healthy relationship with them.
All these young men have no male mentors telling them their character success and being a man is not defined and measured by how many women you sleep with.
Red pill is kinda derived from "the Matrix", it started 10 years ago when US politics suddenly got extreme and inescapable. People/bots were flooding social media with political memes, and a really popular one was "red pill" where the meme compared the movie scene to voting red or blue. In the movie, the red pill is supposed to show the harsh truth, and the blue pill is blissful ignorance. The republican voters (red) had a field day with that one. Black pill is just antisocial behavior/thoughts.
That a persons romantic and sexual success is entirely predetermined by genetics and attractiveness such as height and facial structure. Other factions of the manosphere advocate for self improvement, but the black pill promotes hopelessnes, basically that if you don't have the correct attributes all that you can do is to "lie down and rot". It's very closely related to the looksmaxxers and incel ideologies.
Yeah, if you can scrape together enough for a trans-Atlantic flight, you aren't broke. Ask some guy on skid row if he has enough to fly to Europe for the weekend. Stop romanticizing famous people.
The idea that women can reject Brad Pitt breaks their worldview because it requires acknowledging that women have individual preferences instead of a shared ranking spreadsheet. The dramatic Budapest bench lore is doing a lot of extra work here.
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