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Not kidding, when they first came out, I was standing in a packed basement bar and the commercial came on the TV. It was around the same time that Geico had all those fake commercials, so I remember initially thinking it had to be a joke. Anyway, the whole packed, loud bar got…absolutely silent. We gaped. And then the entire bar laughed. It was surreal.
The 3 main dumpers of heat in the body are the forehead, palms, and bottoms of our feet. People have been using the forehead for a long time to cool down (ie cold compress on the head) but newer science shows it has the same impact with the hands/feet.
It's a Therabody CryoTherm Palm. Basically you put your hands at either side and it rapidly heats or cools your hands, which in turn circulate that blood with a changed temperature into your core, helping rapidly cool or heat your core.
This comment made me look into this product, because I do a lot of physical work in hot environments and am frequently getting overheated. Saw the price tag and was disappointed until I was like “dude you literally carry ice packs in a cooler in the truck all summer”
Weird little topic that I know way more than I’d ever care to about. I’m in EMS and also happen to have spent years teaching at a school in a very hot location where our highly active students heat stroke and try to die pretty frequently.
We deal with this by having coolers with ice water in it (fill cooler with ice, add water until full) stays cold all day in 120 degree weather unless used frequently). The students will periodically submerge their arms past the elbows to rapidly cool down for 30-120 seconds. The process reduces likelihood of heatstroke by a huge amount. This is all at odds with what we were taught medically a decade or two ago but studies from our school and other locations are showing that rapid ice immersion is the appropriate way to treat heat illness. Other locations are starting to follow our protocols by using ice or cold water immersion as well.
Not a medical professional but this is what they would have is do working in kitchens without a/c in the Florida keys over a decade ago. So someone was onto it. They would only let us go arms in, they said if you tried to dump it over your head you could stroke out, is that true?
I believe the modern medical consensus is that whole head immersion can cause stroke in vulnerable patients. For example, one senior has been documented to having died from a stroke doing the "Ice Bucket Challenge".
But not really an issue for regular, healthy, working-age adults.
A rapid enough change in temperature to your face and chest can induce shock. I've seen first hand what it can do. I jumped into a deep well fed spring on a really hot and humid summer day and the moment I went under it was like I completely forgot how to swim or move my body. I was a strong swimmer, and in the kind of wiry strong shape of a very active teen boy. But my brain went into lockup for a few seconds and I stared dumbly around at everyone on shore and then started flailing and dog paddling just to stay afloat. After a few seconds, luckily I didn't pass out or anything and my brain came back online and I was able to swim back to shore.
Going from 90+ f degree air and sweating deeply in humid southern summers and then fully submerged into a pool of 50-60 degreed water is not something I recommend.
We did this lifeguarding only the cooler setup was just out of convenience - we had free access to the ice machine and there were a hard sided coolers in our equipment room, so we'd fill the coolers with ice in the morning and put one by each of our stations, and by the time it got really hot there was enough melt water to be able to submerge our arms up to the elbow as we filled a baggie with ice or dunked a towel to put around the back of our necks. I never thought about the dunking of arms as part of the cooldown but it makes sense.
I did a cycle cross bike race in 100° heat and had to stop the race pretty early due to heating exhaustion. Someone told me to put ice down my pants. It wasn’t fun, but it really helped.
One of my film production instructors about (checks date..) 15 years ago taught us something he learned from a set he worked on with high temperatures. If someone is overheating, you can prevent heat stroke by filling water bottles with cold/iced water and hold it either under your armpits, behind your neck, or between your groin because that is where the main arteries run. Same in reverse; cold weather, use hot water bottles. I hope to never have to apply this knowledge, but never forgot it. I do feel like I have to test this myself to make sure this information applies correctly lol
I remember learning that in my late teens when from some of the old tradesmen on the job site. I couldn't figure out how some of these guys were just going fullbore in high humidity/dew point heat for long periods and why their arms were soaking wet at random points in the day haha
Ice is way to cold, these aren't for general body cooling, they have been shown to increase muscle recovery in the short term. If you use ice, your blood vessels construct to much and the prosses stops.
This is good, I watch a lot of wilderness survival type stuff and I usually press cold packs to my neck veins when it gets bad (I’m talking 130 degree attics and hvac units in the direct afternoon sun) and it actually works really well. I do what I’m good at, but I sure would like to get good at something less soul-sucking.
So ice packs actually won't work as well. they are too cold and will restrict the blood flow in the hands reducing the effect.
But if you hold your hands at the right temperature through any method it will have the same effect as these expensive devices. I think the right temperature is 50 to 60 fahrenheit. You can Google it there with studies on it.
Put wrapped ice packs or cool Gatorade water bottles under your arms or in between your legs (under arms and groin area) will cool you off very quickly.
Things u didn’t know u needed until u seen them. Shyt don’t suppose I can afford one of these either tho 😂 I’m gonna have to light a stick on both ends and hope for the best I guess.
Good to know. I need to warm not cool. I’m never hot. Always frozen 😂. When I read the description, I was thinking omg it’s a magic wand that warms me up when I’m sitting in a tree when it’s 30° out lol if it genuinely works like that. It would be priceless.
I have all of them. But none of them heat up ur core. Hot hand make ur hands/ body hot and sweaty. The chemical reaction ones that u snap the metal in are only warm for hour at most. The old ones that run on lighter fluid stink. The rechargeable electric ones work the best. Long as it’s not in neoprene, which I do love but not in combination with electric heating because it makes u damp and ultimately freezes you. But none of anything I just said, sure as shyt don’t do what the person above described these to do. He’s an either a really good salesman that’s not selling anything. Or there’s something different and special about this particular product in comparison to a hot hand pouch.
I share all of your takes on the current state of hand warmers, friend, right down to the rechargeable electric gloves I have for running that bring me to sweat level and then can't keep up with the heat and I end up with damp freezing hands. I want a fancy blood warmer where my hands are just the heating point, not the entire insufficiently treated area.
I use these for running and they're kind of survival level warm, not really warm warm. I put two in each windproof mitten and then wear thin gloves inside the mittens and kind of hold and play with the warmers inside the mittens as I run, and two in each hand generally just keep enough warmth to not freeze my finger tips but they definitely don't warm my entire hand and by the end of an hour they're not warm at all anymore. There are reusable gel ones that are better, but I feel like portable warming technology could stand a good upgrade. Socks, too.
The electric ones work the best. Keeping up with new or charging batteries is not easy. There’s no comparison with hot hands. Hot hands make u sweat. U don’t use anything that makes u sweat when ur hunting. Period
I have the gel ones that u heat up in hot water and pop the metal tab and it solidifies with heat via thermal reaction. They work for about n hour. Typical day in the woods can be 10-12 hours.
I think this isn’t about heating or cooling it’s about the regulating. Sitting in the oven makes me warm. That’s irrelevant to a deer hunter 25 ft high in a tree in when it’s 4° Fahrenheit. P.s u need working fingers to climb down
There’s a brand called THAW with a great rechargeable handwarmer, and other warming products like heated seat covers and some clothing. I love the handwarmer, it has saved me at some outdoor concerts where I have to play bass in the cold.
THAW Thanks, just looked them up, I like the looks of the Cinder rechargeable handwarmer pouch they sell, is that the one you use? I wish it lasted longer than 5.5 hours on low, but it's still a better design than most warming products I've been auditioning and it's not a bad price at all. I like the idea of warming hands and then doing things with free hands, rather than trying to work with hand warming disks or bags inside gloves.
A company called black ice cooling has an inexpensive palm cooling thingy, I use it for tennis. But the heat would be great in the cold…hmmm how much are they?
I wonder if that could help my palm hyperhidrosis. I have to rigorously clean my controller with isopropyl alcohol 1-2x daily because my hands get nasty. Especially during boss fights and whatnot.
Ever since I was a kid, I've had sweaty palm issues. Even when just calmly riding bike, not sweating anywhere else. Palms: DRIPPY. It's so disruptive.
There are solutions. "Clinical" anti-perspirant hand lotions work well for me! IME it isn't really related to temperature because my hands still sweat like a mfer when it's cold (it's got better with age) and that makes the dry skin worse.
Yah, and they can do injections that apparently suck. I keep my controllers clean with isopropyl but continuously would suck and sweaty hand playing sucks anyway so I feel for you all.
This is definitely a last resort after you've tried all of the other recommended treatments but I got surgery for palmar hyperhidrosis 15 years ago after nothing worked for me and my hands have been dry ever since. My hands were literally always dripping before the surgery. It's called an endoscopic thoracic sympathectomy. I do not regret it but many people do so do your own research!
check r/hyperhidrosis, maybe they have something that works for you
this is purely anecdotal, but the dripping kinda disappeared when I started taking antidepressants which helped with my anxiety. my hands sweat like hell when I'm anxious (happens while playing games too, or when a book/movie starts getting suspenseful). it came back with a vengeance now that I'm rawdogging reality again.
and it could be just a coincidence, but my sweating gets worse whenever I use a lot of isopropyl/ethyl alcohol. it provides temporary relief, but in the long run my hands get more sweaty.
The way this was discovered and tested like 15 years ago is pretty cool.
IIRC (forgive me, im going on a 10+ year old memory), some folks at Stanford were seeing how many pullups an athlete could do with various optimal recovery methods in between. They had developed a special set of gloves that would cool your hands to a specific temperature and found a test subject could basically rattle off an insane amount of pullups if he just wore the gloves for a short time in between sets of going to failure.
Basically, they found that with precise cooling they could cut recovery time down to a very short time relative to just calling it a day and coming back tomorrow to work out again.
When I was a kid and I would be playing outside on a hot summer day, I would often come inside and hold my hands and wrists under cold water from the tap. It cooled me down so well, so to me this product totally makes sense.
As an ex-Raiders fan from the Casper era, why do you continue supporting a team that has left Oakland twice, changed cities 4 times, and abandoned California completely? Loyalty goes both ways. Fuck 'em, root for the home team.
I dunno if you can lay this on McDaniels. This is a full on every aspect failure. Purge em all. I’m inclined to believe Herbert’s cute new squeeze is some sort of apocalyptic succubus
trying to find joy in knowing that the last time we majorly tanked, we got a new coach, so maybe this time we get a new everything + #1 pick🥹 (im coping)
Is Herbert just not that good? I’m guessing you’re a fan whats changed in offense besides no old Keenan Allen? QJ Hampton Herbert all looked pretty good last year
Im convinced its a device that drains the football player’s drive, talent, motivation, throwing ability, play processing and O line effectiveness. This just has to be the answer.
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