r/zillowgonewild • • 19h ago • Bravo 1

This Beautiful 1939 Brick Home in McKeesport, PA, Is Only $80,000. So What's the Catch?

Would you buy this 1939 brick home in McKeesport, Pennsylvania, for just $80,000?

https://boundlessestates.com/properties/1521-manor-ave-mckeesport-pa/

It has 5 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms, 2,378 square feet, a slate roof, decorative fireplaces, and some incredible old-school architecture.

It originally hit the market for $135,000 and has since dropped to $80,000. That's about $34 per square foot.

The house needs significant renovations, it's being sold as-is, and McKeesport has a reputation that will probably make some buyers think twice.

The architecture is beautiful, but between the renovation costs and the location, would you consider this a hidden gem or an $80,000 headache?

Address: 1521 Manor Ave, McKeesport, PA 15132.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1521-Manor-Ave-McKeesport-PA-15132/11464142_zpid/

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u/danappropriate 19h ago edited 18h ago • This Bravo

I'd be willing to bet there's quite a bit more damage than what's seen in the photographs.

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u/Not_a_russian_bot 18h ago • Bravo Mindblown Popcorn Heartwarming

We just gonna ignore this huh?

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u/bojangler69420 19h ago

Maybe. But the real problem is McKeesport. It’s a shithole

Source: been living in Pittsburgh for 12 years

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u/cthulhu_on_my_lawn 19h ago • Bravo

The damage is being in McKeesport.

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u/Gentle-Giant23 19h ago

I suspect that brand new carpet is hiding something.

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u/Frequent_Opportunist 18h ago

Also, if this is a historical house then anytime you do repairs you have to put a ton of money into doing it the way with people that know what they are doing and sourcing the correct building materials. I've done work on houses like this and it's a pain in the butt.

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u/mmm1441 19h ago

There doesn’t need to be. The photographs are a nightmare, starting with slide 11. I’m thinking this is a mold house. Possibly a tear-down due to the cost to remediate.

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u/jondonbovi 19h ago

I'm wondering what it is. I don't see roof or foundation damage. And the pictures look good. I don't see that basement though

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u/AmiraJ1 19h ago

And you know the basement is gonna be real real bad when they didn’t even try to photograph it.

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u/onlyhere4gonewild 19h ago

Damage, remediation costs for mold/lead, all on top meeting city requirements for historic homes.

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u/Maleficent_Theory818 19h ago

I clicked on the photos in the first link and #5 popped up. If this is the damage they have photographed, there is a heck of a lot wrong. It looks like it needs to be taken down to the studs. The nicest bathroom is the one on the third floor. And what they did to the fireplaces is very suspicious. It looks like a cover for water damage.

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u/Sad_Pomegranate_1539 15h ago • Mindblown

This.

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u/eggz627 15h ago

Big bar means better, right? Green is good /s

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u/allegedlydm 12h ago edited 12h ago

Yeah…I work in Allegheny County and will loosely describe my job as “related to food deserts,” so I’m basically never hanging out in “good” neighborhoods professionally. I’ve been threatened exactly three times in 15 years and held at gunpoint once. Two out of three threats and the holdup were in McKeesport.

ETA: I would also note that many of the houses there are abandoned and derelict. That’s because the population is only about a third of what it was at peak.

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u/GraciousCinnamonRoll 15h ago

Yeah, I was gonna say the catch is you'd have to live in McKeesport

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u/call-me-germ 15h ago

ah, so the perfect airbnb?

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u/snowednboston 18h ago • Bravo

Here are some guesses:

Knob and tube wiring

Galvanized plumbing

Leaking bathroom

Failing roof

No insulation

Oil furnace with failing oil tank

Rotten windows

In Nowhere, USA

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u/Easy_Olive1942 18h ago

Needs $100k+ worth of work in an area where surrounding homes aren’t worth more than $100k total.

Price is sadly too high.

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u/MarkCrorigansOmnibus 18h ago

It’s not in Nowhere. It’s in McKeesport. That’s worse.

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u/Glittering_Win_9677 16h ago

I owned a 1939 duplex outside Baltimore from 2007-2018. You don't even want to know how much replacing the slate roof worth another slate roof would have cost in 2016 and it was probably half the size of this house. You would have to use different roofing materials to make it affordable with the house and neighborhood.

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u/blueskies8484 17h ago

McKeesport is right outside Pittsburgh in Allegheny County. It’s not nowhere. That’s Beaver or Washington or Westmoreland county. Unfortunately, its crime rate is 100% higher than the national average and the schools have a reading proficiency of 20%

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u/thesoccerone7 17h ago

Judging by pictures 11, 12, and 17; water damage. Lots of water damage. And also Grafitti in the one at the top of the stairs

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u/Bob_Chris 13h ago • Mindblown

I love how I no one comments on this:

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u/Subject-Nail-2230 13h ago • Bravo

It’s 80k, if the problem is not structural I’m willing to share the space with a ghost or a Jason. Don’t underestimate my broke

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u/Squiggy1975 13h ago

That’s REMAX Agent

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u/IcedGooseMaverick 13h ago • Popcorn

OK, so apparently I’m the dumbass in the movie that wouldn’t notice him standing right behind me. 

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u/PineconeMA_165 12h ago

That's just to make us think that the low price is because of ghosts rather than the crumbling foundation

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u/currently_distracted 11h ago

Hahaha I think that’s the OP’s doing. They’re not on the Zillow/realtor’s websites.

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u/PsychologicalExam717 13h ago

Hence the affordable price.

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u/Zealousideal-Salad62 13h ago

He's in the front window too 😂

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u/Ashifeti 11h ago

This Beautiful 1939 BrickHome in McKeesport, PA, Is Only $80,000. So What's the Catch?

Fixed it for you.

For those not from the area, McKeesport was huge in our industrialization period but has since dried up with steel manufacturing mostly leaving the Pittsburgh area. As with most cities in the Great Lakes rust belt, when the industry goes people flee leaving only those who cannot along with higher crime rate and drugs. If you need a larger major city to compare it to, McKeesport has a higher violent crime rate (per 1000 people) than Detroit, MI. In many ways, McKeesport and Detroit are similar except that Detroit is trending towards the positive direction (a "revival") whereas McKeesport is still bleeding out. I say this as a West Mifflin resident, right across the river from McKeesport.

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u/Fed_Deez_Nutz 11h ago

Yep. McKeesport has a violent crime rate 575% higher than the state average. Also the school ranks in the bottom 14% in the state. PA schools are funded by local taxes rather than at the state or county level, so little chance of improvement.

Don’t expect to get any return on property investments in this area.

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u/GWhizBang 11h ago

Thanks for the explanation about McKeesport. I wasnt familiar with its history. I'm from the South.

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u/Ok-Quail-6478 9h ago

I looked up McKeesport on Google Maps, you can tell from the arial view alone the place is an abandoned crap hole. I went to street level view and it only got worse.

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u/External-Art482 11h ago

My mom's from West Mifflin. The house she grew up in was walking distance to the steel mill. Kennywood is great though.

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u/Professional_Elk3397 19h ago

Because it's McKeesport... I live 30 min away from here.. not the best place to live

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u/Bulky-Incident7454 19h ago

Crime? Trashy? Share with the class. I’m curious because I don’t know PA well. Dad lives in Everett but 🤷‍♀️

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u/KnoWanUKnow2 19h ago

You're not kidding. I just had a glance around in Google Maps. Nicely built homes, most of them run down.

Here's your next door neighbour:

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u/mcwops 19h ago

why? (just curious, i m from Eu)

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u/matthewmspace 13h ago

Seeing the other comments, gonna go out on a limb and say it's because there's probably hidden damage with wiring/piping and that the area has a lot more violent crime than other areas. Gonna go out on a limb and say this is definitely one of those towns that did pretty well for itself until de-industrialization and NAFTA in the 80's and 90's.

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u/fruityfox69 12h ago

I mean, there’s literally massive sections of paint peeling from the ceiling and wall in the 10th pic. I’m surprised nobody noticed that. 

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u/ShaperLord777 18h ago

$80k and sold “as is”.

Might as well hang a banner over the front door that says “major problems”.

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u/Typical_Response_950 14h ago edited 14h ago • Bravo

Here's the test whether you should ever consider living somewhere Search for physician jobs in that city. If you see online postings quoting primary care salaries of $500K+ or specialist salaries of $1M+ then you should NEVER set foot in that city.

source: physician

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u/AbeFromanEast 13h ago • Regret

Adding to this: in 2027 'health care deserts' are getting far larger/worse because severe cuts to rural hospital funding kick in shortly after the midterms that just happened.

The "Big Beautiful Bill" passed last year saved those cuts for just after the midterms. It will be a healthcare bloodbath.

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u/west-egg 13h ago

Why -- because it indicates a severe lack of healthcare availability?

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u/__shadow-banned__ 13h ago

I already live in a place like that. I should’ve been a doctor

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u/TheNatureOfTheGame 19h ago edited 19h ago

Me, scrolling through the pics: "Please be ghosts, please be ghosts, please be ghosts."

Hits pic number 11

Me: "Oh..."

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u/PinkyLeopard2922 18h ago

Best we can do is Michael Myers in pics 1 & 2.

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u/Pugilist12 19h ago

The venn diagram of people with the money to buy and fix this and people who want to live in McKeesport are two circles. Very far apart from one another.

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u/talldean 16h ago

Bluntly but with respect, McKeesport has higher crime, worse public schools, and fewer jobs than many other Pittsburgh suburbs. There aren't a lot of great restaurants for a town of that size, because a huge number of people have been broke for two or three generations. There's also a lot of blighted properties, so you'd want to see the neighbors and the street on something like this. The steel industry falling apart on us hurt, badly.

That said, we have screaming deals on real estate in spots that still have blight, because yeah, from 1920 to about 1960, Pittsburgh was effectively rich; we made more steel here than most of Europe made in total, and that was a very, very profitable business, at least for people who weren't on the bottom tier of labor.

The copper on this says someone cares, so if you were in the market and nearby, yeah, I'd clearly go look at this one.

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u/No-Suggestion-0930 19h ago • Bravo

This may be an indicator, but I could be wrong.

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u/berael 17h ago

So What's the Catch?

McKeesport, PA

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u/trashpix 17h ago

Right - look it up

One of the highest crime rates per capita in PA High poverty (35%) Struggling schools consistently poorly rated Struggling local economy

BUT there's tangible signs of recovery, local government is investing a lot of time and energy on "McKeesport Rising".

For single no kids/DINKs with work in PBG, willing to do a lot of the rehab work, it might be a good bet.

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u/powderpants29 14h ago

I’ll take major foundational problems and bad neighborhood for 500, Alex.

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u/RandomlyJim 18h ago • Mindblown

Termites. I had a house that was listed for $2.3 million in a very exclusive neighborhood. It was on a Large landscape lot on the lakefront.

The interior was perfect in every measurement. Everything was updated tastefully with high-end fit and fixtures, including an AGA oven.

Three stories with three stories of stone decks that faced the water.

It’s sold for $700,000 after being on the market for a year and a half. It was 2021.

During the remodel of the kitchen, they installed cabinets and discovered Formosa termites, had eaten the entire framing of the house, and the home was in danger of collapse.

The owner had spared no expense on the design and remodel of the home.

But he went cheap on getting a treatment Bond instead of a repair Bond for termites.

The people that bought the home ended up spending close to $2 million repairing the framing wall by wall.

They got a great house, but it ended up being a money pit by every measure.

Pic of wood that came out of bottom floor framing.

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u/WearsNightcap 19h ago

Yikes. I just went on street view to scope out the neighborhood and it is really bad with vacant broken down homes.

LOL and I just now noticed the figure in the upstairs bedroom window.

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u/CuriousBee789 19h ago

It was so weird. Go a block in one direction it was a bunch of deteriorated houses with fully fenced of yards...then another direction there are vintage brick roads with even prettier houses.

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u/OneSensiblePerson 18h ago

What a shame. It is, or was, a beautiful house.

I love that master bedroom upstairs with the fireplace. The light is gorgeous. I'll bet there's some very nice hardwood floors under that wall to wall carpeting.

That pale green bathroom is lovely too.

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u/Humanity_NotAFan 18h ago

The tub is amazing

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u/harmlessgrey 19h ago • Bravo

A friend of mine bought a house in McKeesport because it was so incredibly cheap.

Unfortunately, most of the people who live there are addicts. With all of the associated problems that come with that. Petty crime. Run-down properties. Loud fights in the street. Drug dealers. Destroyed, miserable people as neighbors.

It's an entire town of addicts.

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u/cavscout43 19h ago

The walls splitting apart in multiple rooms aren't a giveaway that there are problems? There's graffiti spray tagging in the stairwell too, so it very likely was vacant/abandoned long term.

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u/lilshortyy420 18h ago

If anything after seeing the pictures and area, $80k seems overpriced lol

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u/hermeticbear 19h ago

I'm guessing the price is low because it is in McKeesport.

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u/Luckypenny4683 19h ago edited 19h ago

Oh, it’s being sold as is. There’s something expensive happening that they don’t wanna pay for, so they have to drop the cost. Besides, you’re in a part of the country that already has pretty low house prices, so 80,000 is a reasonable ask here.

ETA: people itt are saying is a bad neighborhood too, which is also contributes to the low price. When we were looking for homes in 2023, we found some really beautiful properties for 80-100K but the neighborhoods were so bad it wasn’t even worth checking them out.

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u/Notris 19h ago

Besides the major structural issues this home has, McKeesport has significant crime problems. It's one of the worst places to live in the Pittsburgh metro area.

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u/Lord-Glorfindel 19h ago

That place looks like it was sitting abandoned for some time given the obvious water damage in those photos. Between repairing/replacing walls, floors, roof, and possibly even foundation issues if it's also been sitting unheated in the winter, you'd be spending more than $80k on repairs.

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u/trench_welfare 19h ago

Photo 17 reveals what the rest of the walls and foundation look like.

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u/Crafty-Cookie2600 19h ago

It has a boiler for heat and I bet the pipes burst at some point causing water damage.....that most likely caused mold to grow.

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u/5usie 16h ago

The catch is that it’s in McKeesport

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u/disharmony-hellride 16h ago

Pittsburgher here and this is the only acceptable answer

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u/PoopScootnBoogey 13h ago

The catch?? It’s in McKeesport …. The hairy armpit of Pennsylvania.

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u/Rho-Ophiuchi 13h ago

Was just about to say that. It’s McKeesport. That’s the catch.

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u/Walterwhiteboy 18h ago

It’s in McKeesport. That’s the catch

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort 19h ago

Judging by some of the interior pictures, there’s a serious water problem, likely a ton of mold, and intense amounts of repairs to do.

You probably have to gut this entire place

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u/Illustrious-Site1101 18h ago

AI has cleaned up those photos a lot!

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u/jockfist5000 19h ago

If they’re saying it requires “significant work” in the MLS description that’s usually a bad sign. You won’t know specifics until you get an inspection but could easily be over 80k in work that’s needed on top. 80k seems par for the area (I’m not familiar) and the public schools don’t look like they’re rated well so I dunno… doesn’t look that appealing to me.

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u/lucabrasi999 19h ago

McKeesport is a bad place to live. Like real, real bad.

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u/MsTossItAll 19h ago

The answer is always the same: location 

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u/crashburn274 16h ago

It looks nice but could have $100,000 in repairs concealed in those walls.

That said if someone wanted to live in PA and was prepared for the repairs I’d still recommend it. The brick is beautiful

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u/HippieHighNoon 16h ago

Id say wayyyy more than 100k. Plumbing, electrical, foundation, who knows what else

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u/skippy99 13h ago

Well, first off, the greater Pittsburgh area is very reasonable, housing prices-wise. The city is kind of odd because there are hundreds of tiny independent townships all around it McKeesport is an OK town but it can be difficult to commute into town if that is where you work and the roads there are busy...really busy. I lived around Pittsburgh for several decades and was able to buy homes for really, really cheap (like $15k cheap) and fix them up for a modest profit. This particular house looks OK, but the insulation, heating, cooling and electrical systems are probably in need of an update. I see actual radiator room heaters which means huge, expensive gas boiler. I see very few electrical outlets and wonder what state the wiring is in. The windows are original metal frame single pane... That room with the collapsed ceiling tells a story that is plaster and lathe (tough to work with) and possible asbestos. One bright spot is that all of the floors are probably hardwood under that ancient carpet. When looking to purchase any home, you always need to look at the comps. This home is priced below market and compares very favorably to the comps. There is probably a reason for that but if you are willing to put up with or correct the issues in this home, it might be worth it. It is probably one of the nicer and potentially higher priced homes in the neighborhood, though, so if you sink $150k into renovations, you probably won't get it back.

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u/No-Memory2446 19h ago

I was sort of hoping Michael Myers would be in every photo.

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u/wiscobrix 19h ago

The catch:

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u/Thepancakeman1k 19h ago

McKeesport is not a good place to live.

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u/Confident_Aerie4980 19h ago

I’m sure the pictures were taken with luxury filters.

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u/FTFaffer 18h ago

I think it might be the McKeesport angle that’s holding it back.

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u/OuestVirginien 16h ago • Regret

Mckeesport is the most dangerous place to live in Pittsburgh and it's not close, nobody with the ability to afford anywhere else would ever live there. Which is why you guys are seeing the rest of the street abandoned and collapsing. My wife used to be a school therapist and had students murdered regularly, at least 1 a year.

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u/STARCADE2084 16h ago • Popcorn

Your wife had students murdered regularly?! 😳

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u/AWDriftEV 15h ago

They didn’t learn not to cross her?

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u/Sgt_Buttes 8h ago

I looked up the crime stats and it’s competitive for one of the most dangerous small cities in the US, with a violent crime rate 3.6 times the US average.

https://spotcrime.io/crime-grade/pennsylvania/mckeesport

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u/Infamous_Try3063 19h ago
  1. mckeesport

  2. as is sale, photos probably not showing all damage.

  3. damage negates the ability to finance

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u/isarobs 18h ago

Your chance of being a victim of violent crime in McKeesport is 1 in 55 and property crime is 1 in 37. It may be cheap, but not worth potentially paying for it with your life.

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u/cvc4455 19h ago

It's cheap because of the location and then also how much work the house probably needs.

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u/atomicpioneer42 19h ago

It’s in McKeesport, PA.

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u/elviethecat101 19h ago

Haunted for sure. Look at the windows. 😆

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u/XRaysFromUranus 18h ago

Look at the other homes for sale in McKeesport. $80,000 is at the high end.

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u/the-trump-the 18h ago

McKeesport? It's pretty grim there even on a sunny day. Hell, I work from home so it doesn't matter much where I live, but personally I'd give it a pass. Beautiful home tho.

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u/Illustrious-Egg-5839 18h ago

Ever been to McKeesport?

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u/mjw217 15h ago

A long time ago McKeesport was a nice place. It’s got a lot of problems now. I have a feeling it’s not the house, it’s the location. I’ve lived in Pittsburgh and the surrounding area for all of my life (70 years). I remember McKeesport in the 60s and 70s. It was great back then. If I had kids I wouldn’t buy the house, but otherwise, maybe if enough people started moving to the area it would improve. Buying a house is always a gamble.

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u/Naive-Firefighter814 14h ago

It’s in McKeesport. That’s the catch 

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u/torklugnutz 19h ago

Failed Contract / Buyer Walked: The property went Pending on 9/11/2026 at $99,500, but the deal fell through. Usually, when a rehab property drops out of pending status, it indicates severe issues were uncovered during inspections (e.g., structural foundation issues, severe roof leaks, or environmental hazards).
Bullet Aggressive Price Cuts: Listed in August 2026 for $135,000, it has been slashed down to $80,000 after sitting on the market over 90 days.
Previous Purchase: The seller bought it in June 2023 for just $42,000. They may have realized the scope of work was far beyond their budget or expected return on investment (ROI).
While Rent Zestimate shows ~$1,415/mo, high property tax jumps (up 876% after recent reassessments to $1,739/yr) and maintenance costs on an older 5-bedroom home can severely narrow net cash flow.
It is a 3-story home built in 1939 with a slate roof. Repairing or replacing a slate roof alone can easily cost $20,000 to $40,000+.

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u/the_real_smolene 19h ago • Bravo

The blacked out graffiti and hasty paint job on 19 gives former squat house to me

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u/Substantial_Leek99 19h ago

The catch is that the house comes with Mike the private chef. Non-negotiable.

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u/Icy_Bookkeeper9747 12h ago

The issue is that it’s located in McKeesport

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u/Special_Life_8261 9h ago

It’s in McKeesport, that’s what. Was a thriving African American suburb to Pittsburgh until the mills left. Now the place has basically been left to rot with the roads literally crumbling under your tires. There’s so many gorgeous old homes there just sitting bc no one wants to live in that neighborhood. It’s also very east of the city & there’s no direct highway access to get you anywhere quickly. Oh and the steel mills that still exist tend to still be around the area so the pollution is a factor

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u/Princess_Thranduil 19h ago

The catch will always be one of these things: location, water damage, foundation issues Or if you're lucky all three!

Edit: reddit borked my formatting

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u/GroceryUnable4874 18h ago

It’s in McKeesport. Why are there any questions beyond that?

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u/thenexttimebandit 19h ago

It’s so bad that even the flippers gave up

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u/zombie-jaw 19h ago

Betcha it’s got a big old crack in the foundation. Or it’s on an Indian burial site.

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u/useABUSE4200 18h ago

Its in McKeesport, close enough

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u/TropicalAbsol 18h ago

It looks like structural damage sadly.

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u/mjmfg0058 19h ago

You have to live in Mckeesport..

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u/Honeybucket206 19h ago

That's the down payment for your heating bill

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u/FreezerBunBun 14h ago

McKeesport kind of really sucks. There’s no money left in the community because once the steel mills left the money went with it. So of course that brings crime, drugs, and bad schools.

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u/Gonzostewie 18h ago

The catch? It's in McKeesport.

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u/AnthonyPalumbo 19h ago

Explore McKeesport PA on Google maps street view. Incredibly run down and depressing. Surprised this pretty home is anywhere near there.

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u/Difficult-Ad4364 19h ago

I’ll take knob and tube wiring and cast iron pipes for $1000 Alex!

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u/alien_astronauts 19h ago

Is Myers meant to be a selling point?

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u/Nickmorgan19457 19h ago

It is technically in New Jersey

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u/senty78 18h ago

McKeesport is the first problem. Slate roof is probably another - it most likely needs to be replaced and slate is very expensive to deal with. Source: buying a house now in Pittsburgh and it has a slate roof lol

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u/GingerDixie 17h ago

Looks at the first few pics

Oh that's not so bad!

Reaches the one with the massive water damage

...Oh. Oh.

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u/Mediocre-Yogurt7452 15h ago

Well, there’s this. 💁🏻‍♂️

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u/Saber_tooth81 13h ago

The catch is the house is in McKeesport

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u/kniki217 7h ago

Well....it's Mckeesport and the house clearly needs a lot of updates and well....it's Mckeesport.

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u/larry-the-dream 19h ago • Bravo

"No Gimli, I would not take the road through McKeesport unless I had no other choice"

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u/princessdickworth 18h ago

It's beautiful but it absolutely needs a new roof, and who knows how wet the basement is. Easy 100k extra for a new roof, mold remediation, basement waterproofing, and potential foundation issues...and a security system.

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u/Witty-Objective3431 19h ago

You have to deal with living in Mckeesport.

It's not walkable. You'll have to drive everywhere no matter what you're trying to do or where you're trying to go. No local jobs. The chances of having a neighbor that is either an addict or a magat are very high. This house looks nicely maintained, but you have no idea what could be hiding without a thorough inspection. Every Pittsburgh home that I know of has either some kind of water issue or soil erosion issue thanks to the hills and the consequences of industry.

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u/Shankar_0 18h ago edited 18h ago

That whispering voice in the night is scary at first, but ends up being a great sort of white noise generator; and the walls don't always bleed...

On a more serious note, I'm betting the damage that we can see is indicative of major structural damage. This will be a tear-down and rebuild in an area without a lot of call to do so. Gentrification will see it get swiped up by a corporate interest and converted into a self-storage or bland strip mall.

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u/djames10 18h ago

Yall seen #19? The place is haunted

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u/Noobdax 18h ago

Photos 1 and 2 didn't tip you off first?

Look at the windows.

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u/Original_Log_6002 19h ago

The catch is that you have to move it by January...

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u/Successful_Peak_573 18h ago

“

It’s a murder house”

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u/Benjamincito 18h ago

It just needs 300-800k in work!

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u/Ok-Cherry-7652 16h ago

Well, the failing architecture and the fact that Michael Myers apparently comes with it.

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u/rook119 14h ago

McKeesport was a 1950s suburban utopia turned rust belt casualty. Some of the buildings still have there 50s signage. You could film fallout there. 

However It's a big suburb and about 1-2 miles away near Renzie Park it's still pretty nice. 

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u/Top-Obligation7500 19h ago

The catch is it’s in McKeesport lmfao

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u/Rogue_Like 19h ago

Anytime you see a house less than 200k its because there's no industry in that area. No jobs = no buyers. Even high crime area will get gentrified if there's money. It will also mean there's less to do in the area. If you want that poor small town feel and you can work remote, then go for it. Most people dont want that.

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u/Sea-Original-5824 19h ago

Also, the local schools are always really, really bad.

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u/NocteVolamus 19h ago

$150k - bath renovations @ $50k each
$120k - kitchen
$ 40k - cooling throughout
$ 1k getting someone to look at the slate roof
$ 20k if it needs repair (conservative)
$80k deferred maintenance heat, elec, plumb, floor refinish, painting, repairs, lighting
subtotal $400k+ Basic renovations. The house wants better than basic. I’d budget $600k.
Idk comps . . . how’s that work out?

Corner lot is a HUGE drag. It’s not 1950. People hate corner lots now. Less privacy. More traffic. Zoning usually imposes 2 deep ‘front’ setbacks instead of one, allowing for less usable property than a same sized neighbor.

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u/spectrumhead 19h ago

Come on over to r/landscaping! We can tell you how to plant 56 cypress trees for privacy! (Just seeeing if any of my peeps are over here as well)

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u/Yunzer2000 17h ago edited 17h ago

Pittsburgher here.

McKeesport is depopulated with many areas blighted or empty lots since US Steel still closed their tubular works there. Like most deindustrialized Mon Valley towns, black people over represented there (39%) attracted by the inexpensive housing - having having been priced out of Pittsburgh by the gentrification. Then there are the poor schools due to the crash of the RE tax base. And of course, it has an outdated and overblown reputation of being "dangerous".

Since most people in the area wanting to move out of of Pittsburgh or into the Pittsburgh area and have kids are going to take McKeesport off the list. Of course plain old western Pennsylvania racism is a factor too. Which is a shame, because it has lots of local recreation opportunities like the GAP Pittsburgh-to-DC bicycle trail, parks and the large Dead Man's Hollow forest preserve.

And so, having used the words "racism" and "gentrification", bring on the downvotes...

Edit: Just looked at the pictures. The house is in awful shape! So that's a big factor,

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u/EstimateCool3454 19h ago

This reads like an ad.

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u/BrutusG 13h ago

Because it is in McKeesport, PA

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u/Goatlawyer 19h ago

Why is this written like a news clip

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u/bojangler69420 19h ago

The catch is having to line in McKeesport, PA. It’s a shithole.

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u/Elaine330 18h ago

Pic 11 is a bigger nightmare than Jason. The biggest issue is that a normal person getting a mortgage cant buy it due to condition (reno loans are a colossal PITA) and it probably needs mold remediation, drywall, new windows, knob and tube replaced, lead plumbing replaced, no central air and cant bring it in due to incredibly outdated oil heat, potential foundation issues, shitty town, etc etc

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u/Griffolion 13h ago

There's probably about $200,000 worth of renovation to do there. I'm guessing compromised foundation, out of code insulation, possible need for asbestos removal, and guessing by the peeling on some of the walls there could be major moisture damage and/or mold. That's before we look at the electrical situation, and the plumbing.

Oh and check the municipality to see if the building is declared historic. If so, that severely limits you on what you can and can't do. For instance, a declared historic house will render you totally unable to get rid of any supernatural serial killers that may be staring through your windows.

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u/iamburgher 19h ago

No chance or renovating that and staying under market value in McKeesport. How many years was it America's most dangerous city?

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u/Turbulent_Plum_4643 19h ago

I regret I'm not young enough to take the risk. Sad that so many towns have become so insecure and/or scary. They do need investment

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u/22FluffySquirrels 18h ago

The catch is

1.) It's in western PA
2.) It looks to have had an enormous hole in the roof

...I'd still buy it...

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u/LoisWade42 19h ago

Photos 11, 16 and 17 show significant water damage. Either busted pipes or leaking roof. Neither is cheap to fix.

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u/MeanderFlanders 19h ago

A failed flip that ran out of money

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u/emccm 19h ago

I have views a few older homes lately and the at the photos are doctored. There’s no way it actually looks like this.

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u/Open-Application1726 18h ago

How many ghosts?

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u/Pleasant_Expert_1990 18h ago

Asbestos? I am betting water damage and/or asbestos

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u/kidyus 18h ago

16-20 are telling

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u/unica3022 18h ago

This is more money than I would pay for it. It needs a bunch of work and is an area that is generally full of lower-cost homes. (And more importantly, is losing population, so it’s full of dilapidated properties that used to be nicer). You’d be dumping money into it that you won’t get back. Somebody will buy it for less is my guess (if it sells at all).

McKeesport just doesn’t have a whole lot of opportunities. And school officials try but the district is not great (the tax base is not wealthy and so schools are not well funded). The infrastructure in this area in particular is also a problem (for instance nearby Versailles Ave is closed at Ravine St until a bridge replacement project is completed, projected for 2029. The bridge has been closed for safety reasons since 2022).

My husband has worked in McKeesport for several years, so we can vouch that there are a few jobs, although not as many as it used to support during the Steel mill heyday. There are some really great people who live in town though.

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u/punkass_book_jockey8 18h ago

“The property requires significant rehabilitation, making it best suited for experienced investors, contractors, or buyers looking to restore a historic home to its former beauty. With the right vision and investment, this property has the potential to become a standout residence”

That tells me that someone started and probably realized the extent of the issues and gave up or ran out of money. It doesn’t say anything about upgrades to electric wires or roof, roof is slate and looks like it’s leaking so “steep gables” and slate roof alone will be a fortune.

The fireplaces (2) are “decorative” which is a red flag. Especially with water damage. Zero pictures of the basement. The one bathroom has clear issues around the window with water damage and possibly damage to the brick so you’d need a mason. The ledge thing outside looks like it has water draining towards the house and keeping moisture there.

Essentially you’ll spent probably upwards 250k just to be able to start spending on the fun things.

Unfortunately with old houses the more you start moving and changing the more you need to do. The wall might have knob and tube wires and cast iron pipes and most pros don’t want to just do pipes in one wall and connect them to iron pipes one wall over.

If you are already a roofer with slate experience and masonry skills it might be slightly less financially devastating.

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u/FlummoxedbyRadioShak 17h ago

Look in the top left window

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u/jaymello197 15h ago

Without looking past the first picture, the catch is already in your title. Lived in the Pittsburgh area all my life, wouldn't consider living in Mckeesport unless you paid me. Even then I'd be hesitant

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u/lifeofpleb 19h ago • Bravo

Can we talk about the creepy guy on the window?

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u/thehopeofcali 19h ago

That is a 3m house in my neighborhood

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u/uberchelle_CA 19h ago

Hello, fellow Californian!

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u/gingerbreadsnacks 19h ago

I used to live like 10 miles from here for 6 months. Cost is related to the area and location. It's the shitty part of Pittsbugh

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u/MonyMony126 19h ago

I love old homes, but have neither the money or the skills to give it the love it needs. But the pics after 1 and 2 were disappointing-i was expecting him to be in every pic! Where was Michael Myers?! But seriously, beautiful old home!

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u/gdognoseit 19h ago

Maybe it’s haunted.

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u/KellyJin17 18h ago

PA is largely pretty affordable, especially for an eastern state.

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u/ExternalSpirit5699 18h ago

it's in mckeesport

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u/porthos1984part2 17h ago

OP did you even look at your own photos? Or are you just trying to ragebate? It is an incomplete resto with some questionable damage in the bathroom. Someone probably started it and found something they didnt like. I am not sure what the laws are in PA but a lot of states require the seller disclose what's wrong with the house.

Also the damaged ceilings are not reassuring. If you want drop an additional 100 to 200k to renovate this would be a great home

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u/PghAreaHandyman 16h ago

Aside from being in McKeesport? (Industry has left, there are really only a few good areas in town, lots of blight, urban prairies, neglect, one of the worst school systems in the state, etc.) It isn't in the worst area of town, over towards Myer Park is decent, but you would need someone special to sink money into it and a flipper would want it much cheaper.

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u/Aggressive_Ad3578 15h ago

It's in mckeesport....thats the catch .....sincerely from a Pittsburgh native

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u/No-Crab-2834 14h ago

It’s in fucking McKeesport 

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u/Excusemytootie 6h ago

Who is in the window??

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u/Responsible-Card3756 19h ago

I love that tub in the last pic!

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u/No-Win-8380 19h ago

McKeesport is…yeah. Not great.

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u/sven_ftw 19h ago

Mckeesport has a whole lotta meth

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u/Ok_Basis1422 18h ago

Not a good place to raise an emu.

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u/The_Alternym 12h ago • Bravo

It’s in PA. That’s the entire problem.

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u/JustGhostyThings 19h ago

Ghosts. It’s full of ghosts and they vandalize the mirrors by writing “get out!” in blood and Windex is hella expensive in today’s economy.

(Or there is a lot of damage and a bad location, but spooky season just ended so that is where my mind is.)

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u/monstermayhem436 19h ago

It's in McKeesport so there's that

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u/EMH55 19h ago

McKeesport

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u/theycallme_mama 18h ago

I'd have to see a home inspection.

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u/punkrawrxx 17h ago

I mean you can see the walls crumbling and it’s in McKeesport. If I wasn’t so incompetent I’d buy it. I love the burgh

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u/Original_Pudding6909 17h ago

Water damage and a fallen ceiling on what looks like the second floor when there is another floor above it? (Staircase going upstairs visible.) That’s a nightmare.

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u/alprazolamenthusie 16h ago

there’s totally amazing wood floors under that carpet tho

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u/Keldrabitches 16h ago

THE TUB!!!

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u/BoardsofCanada3 16h ago

Does it come with the Michael Myers in the window? Cause with a place that looks that much like a haunted house I would definitely want the full package.

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u/JHG722 15h ago

The catch is it’s in McKeesport

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u/Srw2725 15h ago

You have to live in McKeesport

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u/Tasty-Run8895 13h ago

There is a bike trail that goes from Pittsburgh to DC. Well it's really 2 but the GAP trail goes through McKeesport. This is the only part of the trail that I am on guard with my mace close at hand.